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the oldest

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and strongest human emotion is fear

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and the oldest and strongest type of

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fear

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is trepidation of young men

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when we were children our parents told

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us that monsters didn't exist

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but we were sure that something was

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lurking under the bed or in the closet

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fear sees even if our eyes are closed

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welcome to the realm of the arcane my

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name is lon stripler

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join me as i examine unexplained

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creatures

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strange manifestations of remarkable

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imagine this next hour as a voyage of

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discovery to strange lands

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seeking not for new territory but for

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new knowledge of the supernatural come

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on board as we begin

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this adventure together

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hey folks good evening and welcome to

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another episode of arcane radio where we

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explore the unexplained

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here live on beyond explanation i'm your

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host lon strickler and coming to you

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within a canon shot

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of historic gettysburg pennsylvania

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thanks for joining me

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now quick note as always arcane radio

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uh your consideration is very much

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appreciated and needed

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so before i bring my guests in i am

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going to run through

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an account that i received this

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week from a pottstown pennsylvania

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resident

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um we turn to friends actually had

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sightings of strange encounters some

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type of

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canine cryptid at various times and

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locations

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and it's something that uh it's a case

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we're going to look into since it's

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fairly close actually butch lives

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oh god i think but told me he lives

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about six miles from one of the

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locations so um

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he's gonna follow up on and check on it

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eventually

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but anyway the witness states that she

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was born raised in pottstown

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pennsylvania and currently lives there

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uh

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the sighting was an hour west of

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philadelphia and a half an hour away

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she said you ran into your facebook page

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through the weird

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pennsylvania uh webpage

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and um she was reading some of the

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things that several people had

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experiences and sightings so she emailed

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um she said last year a friend

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and her went for a ride to catch up with

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another friend it was march of 2020.

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on a saturday night it just so happened

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to be the weekend when the quarantine

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she said we were on route 422 around

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maybe eating roadkill or something but

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uh it was much bigger than a deer and

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maybe a little bit lighter

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what really gets me was the legs on this

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thing had canine like

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legs but they were huge and muscular

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that this wasn't anything to screw

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the legs look like the drawings i've

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seen on werewolves or something evil

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something told me that this thing could

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walk on two legs also so after we passed

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i asked my friend he was driving did you

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see that he replied yeah

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trying to process what the hell this

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crazier than we thought it was so when i

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got home i told my boyfriend about it

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and he has no idea what kind of animal

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that lives around there that could have

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the next time i saw my friend who had

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both agreed that whatever we saw does

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not fit the description of any animal in

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the area and that was scary looking

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a little guttural growling noise

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which scared him straight to his car and

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so then about a month late after that my

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the front door

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he heard something scratching at the

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door and sniffing

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grunt sound but obviously when a pig

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my friend was sitting in his car in my

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he said he heard something that sounded

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him once i got in his car i told him

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everything

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i just wrote here and i ended my story

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by saying to him

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a few months ago i saw something on

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and before i could say anything else he

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said i saw it too

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so i asked what color was he described

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the exact same fur

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running on two legs across the highway

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it took off really fast like nothing

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would be able to do my heart was beating

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hard listening to him tell me this

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because i know he wasn't making it up

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now i was glad somebody else had seen

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this thing he doesn't know what a

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what it is but he said is about seven to

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and look nefarious he uh he agreed its

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legs look evil

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he saw it around the same time a year as

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for it every time i'm out there so she

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said i was about

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you know it was a story so i i asked her

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to get contact with us

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so we can talk and you know further nail

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you know pinpoint this so butch like i

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he and i are going to continue to gather

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evidence and information on this

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you know pottstown is in montgomery

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uh for those who know about ufo activity

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of ufo activity

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in that area uh that in bucks county for

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um you know that part of pennsylvania

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that south eastern part of pennsylvania

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i have reported several uh cryptic

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canine settings as well

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so you know this is something else we're

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and uh we get any more information we

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will definitely get back to you

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so tonight i welcome longtime humanoid

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ufo researcher and author albert s

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rosales to hurricane radio now we're

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born in cuba and migrated to the united

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states in 1966

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he witnessed several unusual incidents

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as a young man while living in cuba

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which continued throughout his life in

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the u.s and albert became interested in

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unusual phenomena and ufos at a young

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but soon directed his focus to the crux

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of the phenomena

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the humanoids and the other worldly

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entities he began

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collecting data on the encounters from

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worldwide sources in the late 80s

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his current database is well over 20 000

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entries

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albert has published 16 titles including

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the most recent book

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which was titled ufos over florida

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humanoid and other strange encounters in

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the sunshine

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state so albert thank you for joining me

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hey thanks for having me you're welcome

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it's my pleasure

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how you doing well you and i have known

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each other a long time you know i i

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think uh

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i think i've known you about as long as

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any researcher

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in any type of cryptids or humanoids

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i mean i'm quite sure it's been over

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it seems that way lana i i know we've

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been around

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with all the humanoids and stuff yeah

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yeah we got this

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the same uh you know mindset humanoid

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but people are people that read your

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books and you know used to keep the date

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of the database

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online and uh

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uh you know people have been reading you

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for a long time

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every time i talk about you people tell

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me oh yeah i've read i read his reports

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i read his research

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um and then when you know when

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the soviet union kind of want to get

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what's that i want to get back to uh

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having my database online again

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oh yeah that's that way everybody can

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read them because

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i i have updated the cases and they're

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almost almost 30

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well you know like i was saying um

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when the cold war when the cold war

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ended soviet union

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it kind of opened up everything over

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there and you had a lot of connections

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over there and

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you started started getting a lot of

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a lot from starting in 89 all

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to 97 it was hundreds of cases

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maybe thousands of cases uh encounters

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i've done

292
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unbelievable i don't know what happened

293
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you know it

294
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it started in 89 when the when the

295
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soviet union started falling apart

296
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the iron curtain fell that's what i i

297
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don't know if there was any relation to

298
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that but

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that's how it started it was in

300
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incredible amount of cases like

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and the humanoids were like different

302
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type but mostly for some reason

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the taller ones were reported there

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human-like

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even though there were smaller ones and

306
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no other types a lot of bigfoot type

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humanoids

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but a wide range and

309
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there's still stuff going on i mean like

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everywhere else in the world

311
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is slowed down but still

312
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still a lot going on i was listening to

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your report about the

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the k9 and

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you know i don't know i always think

316
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what what could those things be are they

317
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maybe humans that's

318
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somehow changing to uh werewolves

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or do they come from another dimension

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or

321
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why why are they frequently now where do

322
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they come from

323
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now and we wish you uh you know

324
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to have to answer those questions but

325
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well that's uh you know that's the big

326
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question you know

327
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butch and i have been collecting these

328
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cases here in pennsylvania now for

329
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oh i know about six or seven years and

330
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uh

331
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we continuously get reports you know we

332
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quite frankly we don't know where

333
00:13:01,829 --> 00:12:59,760
they're coming from

334
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and a lot of these reports that we've

335
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gotten are coming from

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game commission people i mean they're

337
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running into these things they have no

338
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idea what they are

339
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uh we get hunters encounter these things

340
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as well so

341
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i don't know i mean i wish i did have a

342
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better better idea where they're coming

343
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from i don't think

344
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i don't think for the most part they're

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indigenous it just doesn't seem that way

346
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but uh you know because occasionally we

347
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do get

348
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you know we will get a report that it

349
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does seem like it's um

350
00:13:39,110 --> 00:13:37,360
some type of supernatural being where

351
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it'll have that kind of look to it like

352
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it's something other worldly but

353
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i i don't know you know i'm always open

354
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for suggestions like

355
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like they said in the middle ages and

356
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maybe they they call them werewolves but

357
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there's the worlds are were supposedly

358
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humans that would

359
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turn into into you know into werewolves

360
00:14:04,550 --> 00:14:02,320
have you ever had a report of one of

361
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these uh bipedal canine

362
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wearing like a torn shirt or

363
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any kind of clothing because i know one

364
00:14:14,069 --> 00:14:11,839
or two cases like that

365
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one from california back in the 50s and

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one

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i think texas but uh have you had any

368
00:14:22,069 --> 00:14:18,320
reports like that in

369
00:14:25,189 --> 00:14:22,079
pennsylvania or uh they were all

370
00:14:28,310 --> 00:14:25,199
they were all older reports um

371
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when we had a uh

372
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you know back then back in the late

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1800s well come even the mid-1800s

374
00:14:38,710 --> 00:14:36,079
we had a lot of people in this area

375
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coming in from germany

376
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and of course they had they had these

377
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sightings

378
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in the old world when you know it was

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part of their culture

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and a lot of these german farmers who

381
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had made reports of what they were

382
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calling it the dwell

383
00:14:58,629 --> 00:14:56,240
and uh i had a few of them

384
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that where they mentioned that they had

385
00:15:02,310 --> 00:15:00,480
clothes on so

386
00:15:04,069 --> 00:15:02,320
i don't know what they were seeing i

387
00:15:06,710 --> 00:15:04,079
mean you know when

388
00:15:07,430 --> 00:15:06,720
you talk about lycanthropy where some

389
00:15:09,670 --> 00:15:07,440
like

390
00:15:11,350 --> 00:15:09,680
some mental disease where these these

391
00:15:13,670 --> 00:15:11,360
humans turn into

392
00:15:14,389 --> 00:15:13,680
almost like an animal a bloodthirsty

393
00:15:16,389 --> 00:15:14,399
animal

394
00:15:18,150 --> 00:15:16,399
of course there have been been

395
00:15:21,750 --> 00:15:18,160
historical accounts of

396
00:15:25,590 --> 00:15:21,760
of these uh these lycanthropy incidents

397
00:15:28,150 --> 00:15:25,600
but uh i don't know i mean yeah

398
00:15:29,269 --> 00:15:28,160
you do occasionally see an older account

399
00:15:31,030 --> 00:15:29,279
but more recently

400
00:15:34,230 --> 00:15:31,040
i don't think we've ever had one like

401
00:15:41,430 --> 00:15:37,430
i i read an account and

402
00:15:45,189 --> 00:15:41,440
jerome clark encyclopedia one of his

403
00:15:48,550 --> 00:15:45,199
opinions he uh and this

404
00:15:52,230 --> 00:15:48,560
texas looking 58 greg brickstown

405
00:15:55,030 --> 00:15:52,240
uh a lady her stout and she's so

406
00:15:55,509 --> 00:15:55,040
uh what he looked like a bipedal you

407
00:15:59,670 --> 00:15:55,519
know

408
00:16:02,710 --> 00:15:59,680
the height like

409
00:16:04,310 --> 00:16:02,720
the height of a man it walked behind a

410
00:16:07,269 --> 00:16:04,320
pole or something then and the other

411
00:16:13,430 --> 00:16:10,310
something else emerged a naked male that

412
00:16:17,910 --> 00:16:15,430
that maybe showed a connection between

413
00:16:20,829 --> 00:16:17,920
both but you don't hear too many

414
00:16:22,069 --> 00:16:20,839
that type of reports anyway i mean it's

415
00:16:25,110 --> 00:16:22,079
like uh

416
00:16:26,470 --> 00:16:25,120
like big i mean

417
00:16:28,470 --> 00:16:26,480
i don't i don't think there's any way

418
00:16:31,590 --> 00:16:28,480
that bigfoot could be a uh

419
00:16:34,710 --> 00:16:31,600
in indigenous maybe that

420
00:16:37,670 --> 00:16:34,720
they they might live among us but not

421
00:16:39,269 --> 00:16:37,680
in this plane you know what they they

422
00:16:39,990 --> 00:16:39,279
probably come from another dimension and

423
00:16:41,910 --> 00:16:40,000
they come in

424
00:16:43,509 --> 00:16:41,920
and they go back out again because

425
00:16:43,749 --> 00:16:43,519
they've been around for for years like

426
00:16:46,949 --> 00:16:43,759
the

427
00:16:50,069 --> 00:16:46,959
hairy man and

428
00:16:50,710 --> 00:16:50,079
and they've been around because i i

429
00:16:51,990 --> 00:16:50,720
don't think that

430
00:16:53,749 --> 00:16:52,000
that we can ever going to be able to

431
00:16:55,110 --> 00:16:53,759
catch up bigfoot even though people say

432
00:16:58,069 --> 00:16:55,120
they have but i don't believe none of

433
00:17:03,189 --> 00:17:00,710
yeah i'm with you i i i'd be very

434
00:17:06,710 --> 00:17:03,199
surprised if we ever do get a body or

435
00:17:08,710 --> 00:17:06,720
even a live one i um and also i

436
00:17:11,350 --> 00:17:08,720
i believe most cryptids for the most

437
00:17:12,230 --> 00:17:11,360
part are not indigenous that they are

438
00:17:19,029 --> 00:17:12,240
some type of

439
00:17:20,069 --> 00:17:19,039
doorway into another dimension or

440
00:17:22,710 --> 00:17:20,079
reality

441
00:17:24,309 --> 00:17:22,720
that opens up and uh you know we see it

442
00:17:27,350 --> 00:17:24,319
for a brief time

443
00:17:29,590 --> 00:17:27,360
and then it's gone um

444
00:17:31,909 --> 00:17:29,600
it's hard to tell i mean you know i've

445
00:17:33,430 --> 00:17:31,919
had my own bigfoot encounter and i saw

446
00:17:36,310 --> 00:17:33,440
this thing for

447
00:17:37,669 --> 00:17:36,320
a decent amount of time i i don't know

448
00:17:41,110 --> 00:17:37,679
you know but you know i've always

449
00:17:43,510 --> 00:17:41,120
questioned was this thing actually

450
00:17:45,669 --> 00:17:43,520
uh i believe it's flesh and blood but

451
00:17:48,230 --> 00:17:45,679
was it actually of this world or was it

452
00:17:49,830 --> 00:17:48,240
somewhere else and uh

453
00:17:54,390 --> 00:17:49,840
you know i hear people talk about that

454
00:17:57,430 --> 00:17:56,230
well we read their reports like from

455
00:17:59,430 --> 00:17:57,440
stan gordon

456
00:18:00,549 --> 00:17:59,440
about those incidents you know back in

457
00:18:03,909 --> 00:18:00,559
the 70s when they

458
00:18:06,470 --> 00:18:03,919
people do that at a bigfoot and

459
00:18:07,430 --> 00:18:06,480
a flash of light and they'll be or turn

460
00:18:10,710 --> 00:18:07,440
it

461
00:18:11,830 --> 00:18:10,720
they both light and disappear not only

462
00:18:15,510 --> 00:18:11,840
in pennsylvania

463
00:18:17,350 --> 00:18:15,520
other locations also i know

464
00:18:18,630 --> 00:18:17,360
back in sedona arizona there was a

465
00:18:21,750 --> 00:18:18,640
report of

466
00:18:26,830 --> 00:18:21,760
about 1989 some guy was hiking

467
00:18:32,630 --> 00:18:29,830
air

468
00:18:33,510 --> 00:18:32,640
like some type of portal open up thing

469
00:18:35,830 --> 00:18:33,520
it opened up and

470
00:18:37,430 --> 00:18:35,840
out of the portal uh bigfoot thing

471
00:18:38,870 --> 00:18:37,440
jumped out and ran away

472
00:18:40,549 --> 00:18:38,880
then the portal kind of closed up and

473
00:18:43,350 --> 00:18:40,559
disappeared

474
00:18:45,190 --> 00:18:43,360
like a window thing is something that

475
00:18:49,350 --> 00:18:45,200
came through

476
00:18:52,710 --> 00:18:49,360
uh yeah you know

477
00:18:54,830 --> 00:18:52,720
the very first uh upright k9 dogma

478
00:18:56,310 --> 00:18:54,840
report that we received and butch and i

479
00:18:59,830 --> 00:18:56,320
received was

480
00:19:02,549 --> 00:18:59,840
of a guy who was out walking his dogs

481
00:19:04,070 --> 00:19:02,559
and all of us they were in a state game

482
00:19:05,750 --> 00:19:04,080
and all of a sudden this thing appeared

483
00:19:06,710 --> 00:19:05,760
in front of them like it walked out of a

484
00:19:08,950 --> 00:19:06,720
door

485
00:19:10,710 --> 00:19:08,960
it completely ignored them walked right

486
00:19:13,430 --> 00:19:10,720
past them and took off

487
00:19:15,350 --> 00:19:13,440
into the woods and you know the dogs are

488
00:19:16,230 --> 00:19:15,360
going crazy trying to get to this thing

489
00:19:18,870 --> 00:19:16,240
but

490
00:19:19,270 --> 00:19:18,880
this this beast didn't even react to it

491
00:19:22,310 --> 00:19:19,280
so

492
00:19:23,750 --> 00:19:22,320
um you know it makes you wonder here

493
00:19:25,350 --> 00:19:23,760
what it does

494
00:19:27,909 --> 00:19:25,360
you know that's you know that's why we

495
00:19:30,310 --> 00:19:27,919
look into this crazy stuff you know

496
00:19:32,310 --> 00:19:30,320
with these these wing humanoid phenomena

497
00:19:33,909 --> 00:19:32,320
again we have no idea where these things

498
00:19:36,150 --> 00:19:33,919
are coming from we're kind of

499
00:19:37,510 --> 00:19:36,160
we're trying to grasp at all kinds of

500
00:19:41,029 --> 00:19:37,520
theories

501
00:19:44,150 --> 00:19:41,039
uh but i i think for the most part

502
00:19:47,909 --> 00:19:44,160
those of us um and you know myself

503
00:19:48,310 --> 00:19:47,919
manuel and tobias i i think all three of

504
00:19:52,150 --> 00:19:48,320
us

505
00:19:53,350 --> 00:19:52,160
are agreeing to a point now that these

506
00:19:56,789 --> 00:19:53,360
are some type of

507
00:19:58,789 --> 00:19:56,799
uh interdimensional being

508
00:20:00,150 --> 00:19:58,799
some type of creature that comes in from

509
00:20:02,549 --> 00:20:00,160
another reality

510
00:20:04,070 --> 00:20:02,559
for a short brief time and then is go is

511
00:20:08,149 --> 00:20:04,080
gone again

512
00:20:10,310 --> 00:20:08,159
so uh why does it yeah i don't know

513
00:20:11,510 --> 00:20:10,320
yeah the weird thing about these flying

514
00:20:13,830 --> 00:20:11,520
humanoids some other

515
00:20:15,270 --> 00:20:13,840
they're so different they seem to be

516
00:20:15,590 --> 00:20:15,280
different types you know that the ones

517
00:20:18,630 --> 00:20:15,600
are

518
00:20:20,950 --> 00:20:18,640
leathery winged like a bat and then

519
00:20:22,390 --> 00:20:20,960
you got the ones that seem to be uh more

520
00:20:26,070 --> 00:20:22,400
human-like but

521
00:20:26,710 --> 00:20:26,080
with clothing there was one a reporter

522
00:20:28,470 --> 00:20:26,720
that

523
00:20:29,990 --> 00:20:28,480
the thing was wearing boots boots or

524
00:20:33,270 --> 00:20:30,000
something like that

525
00:20:35,990 --> 00:20:33,280
and different types like uh like the

526
00:20:37,909 --> 00:20:36,000
most mothman type and uh

527
00:20:40,630 --> 00:20:37,919
because there's been flying humanoid

528
00:20:43,590 --> 00:20:40,640
reports like from

529
00:20:46,230 --> 00:20:43,600
backing down i know some back in the 30s

530
00:20:49,029 --> 00:20:46,240
from russia and stuff like that

531
00:20:51,110 --> 00:20:49,039
flying humanoids bat like human-like

532
00:20:53,350 --> 00:20:51,120
different types

533
00:20:55,110 --> 00:20:53,360
yeah well you talk about the garuda and

534
00:20:57,510 --> 00:20:55,120
other types of uh

535
00:20:58,390 --> 00:20:57,520
other types of phenomena that are wing

536
00:21:01,110 --> 00:20:58,400
beings and

537
00:21:02,710 --> 00:21:01,120
uh yeah you know people kind of you know

538
00:21:03,669 --> 00:21:02,720
people hear about mothman and wing

539
00:21:05,510 --> 00:21:03,679
humanoids

540
00:21:07,830 --> 00:21:05,520
they say oh well that started with the

541
00:21:09,990 --> 00:21:07,840
mothman oh no way i mean that

542
00:21:12,230 --> 00:21:10,000
you know it was way back then you know

543
00:21:15,270 --> 00:21:12,240
we talked about the anunnaki and other

544
00:21:17,270 --> 00:21:15,280
possible types of winged beans uh

545
00:21:18,950 --> 00:21:17,280
even people that consider angels

546
00:21:19,909 --> 00:21:18,960
possibly being some type of cryptic

547
00:21:24,710 --> 00:21:19,919
being

548
00:21:28,870 --> 00:21:26,870
there's been reports of uh creatures

549
00:21:32,950 --> 00:21:28,880
like that look like angels

550
00:21:36,630 --> 00:21:32,960
a man with wings i know puerto rico

551
00:21:38,310 --> 00:21:36,640
and he this guy was flying horizontally

552
00:21:40,870 --> 00:21:38,320
like he was like

553
00:21:42,070 --> 00:21:40,880
standing up and he looked like a man

554
00:21:43,669 --> 00:21:42,080
wearing some kind of robe

555
00:21:45,350 --> 00:21:43,679
and he had like what appeared to be

556
00:21:46,390 --> 00:21:45,360
wings he wasn't flapping the wings he

557
00:21:49,669 --> 00:21:46,400
was just floating

558
00:21:53,350 --> 00:21:49,679
along tall muscular

559
00:21:55,909 --> 00:21:53,360
blonde hair totally different from

560
00:21:56,870 --> 00:21:55,919
the other type of flying humanoids and

561
00:22:00,070 --> 00:21:56,880
there's one uh

562
00:22:00,549 --> 00:22:00,080
another report that it from canada that

563
00:22:04,149 --> 00:22:00,559
the guy

564
00:22:06,310 --> 00:22:04,159
sent to me directly but he sent a report

565
00:22:09,590 --> 00:22:06,320
to mufon also

566
00:22:10,310 --> 00:22:09,600
this huge winged muscular humanoid too

567
00:22:12,310 --> 00:22:10,320
but

568
00:22:13,669 --> 00:22:12,320
it landed on the roadway and then looked

569
00:22:15,350 --> 00:22:13,679
at him and he

570
00:22:17,270 --> 00:22:15,360
looked more like a man but wearing you

571
00:22:18,070 --> 00:22:17,280
know with not worrying but he had like

572
00:22:24,830 --> 00:22:18,080
uh

573
00:22:27,750 --> 00:22:24,840
creature that has been seen in chicago

574
00:22:29,590 --> 00:22:27,760
recently

575
00:22:31,590 --> 00:22:29,600
yeah well you know we're getting we do

576
00:22:33,669 --> 00:22:31,600
get reports from other places too

577
00:22:35,350 --> 00:22:33,679
i mean you know these wing humanoids

578
00:22:38,470 --> 00:22:35,360
seem to be

579
00:22:40,149 --> 00:22:38,480
primarily in in recent times uh

580
00:22:42,870 --> 00:22:40,159
something in north america

581
00:22:43,510 --> 00:22:42,880
or canada uh we don't get a whole lot of

582
00:22:47,510 --> 00:22:43,520
them

583
00:22:50,549 --> 00:22:47,520
from overseas now i will say

584
00:22:53,029 --> 00:22:50,559
when it comes to humanoids and you and i

585
00:22:56,070 --> 00:22:53,039
were talking about this before the show

586
00:22:59,350 --> 00:22:56,080
these crawler

587
00:23:02,710 --> 00:22:59,360
you know type of humanoids these pale

588
00:23:04,470 --> 00:23:02,720
or white type humanoids very few body

589
00:23:06,789 --> 00:23:04,480
features hairless

590
00:23:07,990 --> 00:23:06,799
smooth skin they seem to just turn up

591
00:23:11,830 --> 00:23:08,000
people have no idea

592
00:23:14,950 --> 00:23:11,840
what they are i uh it's interesting i

593
00:23:17,990 --> 00:23:14,960
i had some photos from a

594
00:23:20,149 --> 00:23:18,000
uh from a sighting in poland

595
00:23:22,470 --> 00:23:20,159
uh and bill's got those you're gonna

596
00:23:25,669 --> 00:23:22,480
flash put them up on the screen

597
00:23:28,710 --> 00:23:25,679
but uh you know it is these

598
00:23:31,830 --> 00:23:28,720
these screenshots came from a video

599
00:23:35,190 --> 00:23:31,840
and this thing was screaming you know

600
00:23:36,870 --> 00:23:35,200
like crazy like a banshee uh

601
00:23:38,310 --> 00:23:36,880
and he had heard it while he was in his

602
00:23:41,190 --> 00:23:38,320
house

603
00:23:42,630 --> 00:23:41,200
and uh he came out to investigate and

604
00:23:46,870 --> 00:23:42,640
this is what he found

605
00:23:50,070 --> 00:23:46,880
so i have no idea what those things are

606
00:23:50,310 --> 00:23:50,080
and that that that is something that you

607
00:23:52,789 --> 00:23:50,320
know

608
00:23:54,710 --> 00:23:52,799
i'm gonna ha i feel like i'm gonna have

609
00:23:56,310 --> 00:23:54,720
to have more information on before i

610
00:23:58,390 --> 00:23:56,320
write a book about it

611
00:24:01,669 --> 00:23:58,400
because there's there's just really no

612
00:24:04,149 --> 00:24:01,679
explanation as to why they're here

613
00:24:05,750 --> 00:24:04,159
and what they want or what they you know

614
00:24:08,149 --> 00:24:05,760
what the deal is with them so

615
00:24:08,789 --> 00:24:08,159
um they don't seem to be they don't seem

616
00:24:13,029 --> 00:24:08,799
to hurt

617
00:24:20,950 --> 00:24:18,070
what's that

618
00:24:23,909 --> 00:24:20,960
they're just weird because they crawl

619
00:24:28,470 --> 00:24:26,870
and when you see those movies from um

620
00:24:31,430 --> 00:24:28,480
the horror movies uh

621
00:24:32,950 --> 00:24:31,440
when they the demons and all that that's

622
00:24:33,590 --> 00:24:32,960
the same thing they do they crawl around

623
00:24:37,029 --> 00:24:33,600
up the wall

624
00:24:38,630 --> 00:24:37,039
and on the floor so i i i don't want to

625
00:24:39,350 --> 00:24:38,640
see one of those calling humanoids for

626
00:24:41,510 --> 00:24:39,360
sure

627
00:24:45,029 --> 00:24:41,520
but they because that that's that's very

628
00:24:49,269 --> 00:24:47,029
i don't know and i'm not saying that

629
00:24:50,710 --> 00:24:49,279
they're demons but

630
00:24:52,950 --> 00:24:50,720
i don't know maybe they're creatures

631
00:24:54,549 --> 00:24:52,960
that could be considered

632
00:24:56,390 --> 00:24:54,559
considered demons that they were maybe

633
00:24:57,510 --> 00:24:56,400
considered demons back in the back in

634
00:25:01,669 --> 00:24:57,520
the day

635
00:25:03,350 --> 00:25:01,679
another one's more benevolent

636
00:25:05,110 --> 00:25:03,360
who knows but you say they don't they

637
00:25:09,430 --> 00:25:05,120
haven't heard anybody or nobody

638
00:25:12,630 --> 00:25:09,440
that we know so yeah

639
00:25:14,230 --> 00:25:12,640
yeah i mean uh some people now some

640
00:25:15,350 --> 00:25:14,240
people have told me they have seen them

641
00:25:19,110 --> 00:25:15,360
feeding

642
00:25:22,310 --> 00:25:19,120
on dead animals and uh such but

643
00:25:25,029 --> 00:25:22,320
as far as humans go i i don't i really

644
00:25:27,029 --> 00:25:25,039
know of any deliberate attacks or

645
00:25:28,549 --> 00:25:27,039
anything now

646
00:25:30,710 --> 00:25:28,559
we had a couple reports here in

647
00:25:31,750 --> 00:25:30,720
pennsylvania and unfortunately because

648
00:25:34,230 --> 00:25:31,760
of this cove

649
00:25:35,750 --> 00:25:34,240
quarantine we just haven't really been

650
00:25:39,909 --> 00:25:35,760
able to investigate them

651
00:25:41,430 --> 00:25:39,919
but we we plan on going into these areas

652
00:25:43,909 --> 00:25:41,440
and possibly

653
00:25:44,710 --> 00:25:43,919
gathering some information of these

654
00:25:48,310 --> 00:25:44,720
things so

655
00:25:49,110 --> 00:25:48,320
um i don't know i i wish i had more

656
00:25:51,909 --> 00:25:49,120
information

657
00:25:53,830 --> 00:25:51,919
it's it's unfortunate but you know it's

658
00:25:56,950 --> 00:25:53,840
it's just like anything else

659
00:25:59,190 --> 00:25:56,960
we get these spats of these um

660
00:26:00,710 --> 00:25:59,200
these sightings uh of these creatures

661
00:26:02,950 --> 00:26:00,720
different creatures

662
00:26:04,390 --> 00:26:02,960
for a period of time and then they just

663
00:26:06,549 --> 00:26:04,400
kind of fade off and

664
00:26:08,230 --> 00:26:06,559
you know we don't hear about it for a

665
00:26:11,990 --> 00:26:08,240
while so

666
00:26:14,230 --> 00:26:12,000
who knows well it

667
00:26:15,510 --> 00:26:14,240
seems like the bigfoot in pennsylvania

668
00:26:17,430 --> 00:26:15,520
seems to be very steady

669
00:26:18,710 --> 00:26:17,440
every year you know there's reports

670
00:26:23,750 --> 00:26:18,720
there

671
00:26:25,909 --> 00:26:23,760
of a bigfoot type

672
00:26:26,870 --> 00:26:25,919
creature attacking a human even though

673
00:26:29,110 --> 00:26:26,880
there's

674
00:26:29,909 --> 00:26:29,120
some on record especially in the early

675
00:26:33,110 --> 00:26:29,919
days you know

676
00:26:37,350 --> 00:26:33,120
back in the second day yeah but i mean

677
00:26:43,269 --> 00:26:40,549
especially back in e3 when they had that

678
00:26:44,149 --> 00:26:43,279
that that landing there in greensburg uh

679
00:26:48,149 --> 00:26:44,159
where they had the

680
00:26:51,190 --> 00:26:48,159
the ufo and the the bigfoot near the ufo

681
00:26:54,870 --> 00:26:51,200
yeah implied a direct connection

682
00:26:58,070 --> 00:26:54,880
which i i'm convinced yeah

683
00:27:01,269 --> 00:26:58,080
well if anybody gets a chance to see the

684
00:27:04,549 --> 00:27:01,279
um see seth breedlove's

685
00:27:07,430 --> 00:27:04,559
film about the chestnut ridge

686
00:27:07,990 --> 00:27:07,440
and the uh you know stands in that stan

687
00:27:10,310 --> 00:27:08,000
gordon is

688
00:27:11,350 --> 00:27:10,320
in that and he explains and they

689
00:27:13,909 --> 00:27:11,360
dramatize

690
00:27:14,950 --> 00:27:13,919
the uh the bigfoot in the ufo connection

691
00:27:17,830 --> 00:27:14,960
there

692
00:27:18,310 --> 00:27:17,840
uh you know and you're right that 73

693
00:27:22,310 --> 00:27:18,320
flap

694
00:27:25,350 --> 00:27:22,320
phenomena

695
00:27:26,310 --> 00:27:25,360
i mean it was crazy i mean it just

696
00:27:27,669 --> 00:27:26,320
wasn't in the

697
00:27:30,149 --> 00:27:27,679
on the ridge either it was all

698
00:27:31,190 --> 00:27:30,159
throughout the state down into maryland

699
00:27:34,549 --> 00:27:31,200
into new york

700
00:27:37,029 --> 00:27:34,559
it was prevalent and um

701
00:27:38,870 --> 00:27:37,039
you know i i it's on you you know

702
00:27:42,549 --> 00:27:38,880
indiana

703
00:27:46,789 --> 00:27:42,559
yeah it was all over um

704
00:27:50,070 --> 00:27:46,799
we um and we still get weird reports

705
00:27:52,310 --> 00:27:50,080
of bigfoot involved phenomena uh

706
00:27:53,430 --> 00:27:52,320
associated with lights and other type of

707
00:27:57,350 --> 00:27:53,440
strange uh

708
00:27:59,590 --> 00:27:57,360
unexplained encounters um

709
00:28:01,669 --> 00:27:59,600
you know you sit there and you wonder i

710
00:28:02,870 --> 00:28:01,679
mean what are these how are these things

711
00:28:05,029 --> 00:28:02,880
connected

712
00:28:06,549 --> 00:28:05,039
and are they really extraterrestrials

713
00:28:08,149 --> 00:28:06,559
who knows but

714
00:28:10,470 --> 00:28:08,159
you know some of the stories and of

715
00:28:13,110 --> 00:28:10,480
course when you get these uh

716
00:28:13,909 --> 00:28:13,120
these upright canine sightings involved

717
00:28:17,190 --> 00:28:13,919
and you know

718
00:28:18,310 --> 00:28:17,200
as well you know you really have to

719
00:28:20,230 --> 00:28:18,320
wonder

720
00:28:21,909 --> 00:28:20,240
you know if these are some type of

721
00:28:23,990 --> 00:28:21,919
portal opening up

722
00:28:29,669 --> 00:28:24,000
and these uh these creatures are able to

723
00:28:32,870 --> 00:28:31,909
the funny thing about uh some of the the

724
00:28:36,230 --> 00:28:32,880
bigfoot reports

725
00:28:40,149 --> 00:28:36,240
i i know some some cases

726
00:28:43,029 --> 00:28:40,159
in which um there's one case

727
00:28:43,590 --> 00:28:43,039
specifically from spain 1990 with this

728
00:28:51,909 --> 00:28:43,600
guy

729
00:28:53,590 --> 00:28:51,919
signal up in the mountain he was

730
00:28:56,549 --> 00:28:53,600
abducted

731
00:28:56,950 --> 00:28:56,559
and while on board the ufo you remember

732
00:28:59,029 --> 00:28:56,960
seeing

733
00:29:00,470 --> 00:28:59,039
several type of creatures but one of the

734
00:29:05,110 --> 00:29:00,480
creatures what he called

735
00:29:09,269 --> 00:29:05,120
uh a nape man looking like a big ape

736
00:29:11,350 --> 00:29:09,279
bipedal uh sounds like bigfoot to me and

737
00:29:15,830 --> 00:29:11,360
then there's another case from france

738
00:29:17,269 --> 00:29:15,840
and 73 that there was a couple out there

739
00:29:18,870 --> 00:29:17,279
you know they were necking out in the

740
00:29:19,830 --> 00:29:18,880
woods and parked on this other side of

741
00:29:22,310 --> 00:29:19,840
the road

742
00:29:24,310 --> 00:29:22,320
and they saw like a big sphere land and

743
00:29:27,350 --> 00:29:24,320
a nearby field

744
00:29:29,669 --> 00:29:27,360
a door open and then uh

745
00:29:31,269 --> 00:29:29,679
some little figures came out you know

746
00:29:35,190 --> 00:29:31,279
little humanoids then

747
00:29:38,470 --> 00:29:35,200
two men exited long hair blonde

748
00:29:40,710 --> 00:29:38,480
the nordics and and then after that

749
00:29:42,549 --> 00:29:40,720
they walked around and then the door

750
00:29:43,510 --> 00:29:42,559
stayed open and something else came out

751
00:29:46,470 --> 00:29:43,520
that

752
00:29:47,590 --> 00:29:46,480
the couple said it was like a big ape

753
00:29:52,549 --> 00:29:47,600
and it stood like

754
00:29:55,590 --> 00:29:52,559
guard by the door of the ufo

755
00:29:57,830 --> 00:29:55,600
after a while they these the big tall

756
00:30:00,549 --> 00:29:57,840
man the ape went in and then

757
00:30:02,230 --> 00:30:00,559
went back in and the little man and this

758
00:30:03,909 --> 00:30:02,240
this case

759
00:30:06,549 --> 00:30:03,919
they found a lot of tracks and different

760
00:30:09,029 --> 00:30:06,559
stuff very interesting

761
00:30:09,830 --> 00:30:09,039
as far as the connection with bigfoot

762
00:30:14,310 --> 00:30:09,840
and

763
00:30:15,269 --> 00:30:14,320
ufos yeah we've got i've gotten some

764
00:30:17,909 --> 00:30:15,279
strange

765
00:30:18,630 --> 00:30:17,919
reports from spain myself and i know you

766
00:30:20,789 --> 00:30:18,640
have

767
00:30:22,549 --> 00:30:20,799
i don't know what it is about spain but

768
00:30:25,029 --> 00:30:22,559
there seemed to be a lot of reptilian

769
00:30:29,110 --> 00:30:25,039
reports that come out of there as well

770
00:30:32,870 --> 00:30:29,120
uh i i don't know if there's a specific

771
00:30:35,510 --> 00:30:32,880
specific reason for that uh

772
00:30:35,909 --> 00:30:35,520
you know reptilian cases are very few

773
00:30:39,190 --> 00:30:35,919
and far

774
00:30:42,950 --> 00:30:39,200
between uh and most time we associate

775
00:30:45,669 --> 00:30:42,960
reptilians with extraterrestrials but

776
00:30:49,510 --> 00:30:45,679
there do seem to be reports of these

777
00:30:49,520 --> 00:31:03,190
that may be indigenous

778
00:31:07,430 --> 00:31:05,830
that there's uh yeah i heard some of the

779
00:31:10,470 --> 00:31:07,440
reptilian cases from

780
00:31:12,389 --> 00:31:10,480
from spain uh

781
00:31:14,149 --> 00:31:12,399
i know a couple not that many though but

782
00:31:15,909 --> 00:31:14,159
i know a lot of flying humanoid cases

783
00:31:19,190 --> 00:31:15,919
from spain

784
00:31:19,509 --> 00:31:19,200
back in the 80s 88 87 there were a lot

785
00:31:22,630 --> 00:31:19,519
of

786
00:31:23,430 --> 00:31:22,640
reptilian cases in italy in which there

787
00:31:27,509 --> 00:31:23,440
was a

788
00:31:29,669 --> 00:31:27,519
an area there were like similar beans

789
00:31:30,950 --> 00:31:29,679
remember the some freda abduction back

790
00:31:32,070 --> 00:31:30,960
in 78

791
00:31:34,230 --> 00:31:32,080
they they're pretty similar but these

792
00:31:37,350 --> 00:31:34,240
were like according to the witnesses

793
00:31:41,269 --> 00:31:37,360
they looked like like dragons

794
00:31:43,350 --> 00:31:41,279
bipedal with a green scaly skin

795
00:31:44,470 --> 00:31:43,360
and this is this was in italy in 1980

796
00:31:47,669 --> 00:31:44,480
from 87

797
00:31:50,149 --> 00:31:47,679
88 the same year

798
00:31:51,669 --> 00:31:50,159
they found that mistake in the same year

799
00:31:54,789 --> 00:31:51,679
of the uh

800
00:31:56,710 --> 00:31:54,799
the cases in south carolina

801
00:32:03,269 --> 00:31:56,720
where the kids saw the lizardmen

802
00:32:06,389 --> 00:32:05,750
yeah skateboarder swamp exactly like

803
00:32:08,310 --> 00:32:06,399
that one

804
00:32:09,590 --> 00:32:08,320
and this is the same year 88 that was

805
00:32:11,990 --> 00:32:09,600
seen in italy

806
00:32:13,269 --> 00:32:12,000
i don't know they seem to come in the

807
00:32:19,190 --> 00:32:13,279
way

808
00:32:24,310 --> 00:32:22,070
yeah you're right i mean you know it's

809
00:32:26,549 --> 00:32:24,320
uh

810
00:32:28,789 --> 00:32:26,559
you know oh you were asking me you were

811
00:32:32,389 --> 00:32:28,799
mentioning to me that you're

812
00:32:34,630 --> 00:32:32,399
involved with looking into cases

813
00:32:39,029 --> 00:32:34,640
uh during world war ii can you kind of

814
00:32:44,710 --> 00:32:42,470
i i recently had a i talked to

815
00:32:46,470 --> 00:32:44,720
somebody in argentina about cases from

816
00:32:49,990 --> 00:32:46,480
world war ii

817
00:32:53,430 --> 00:32:50,000
and i mentioned a couple of cases that i

818
00:33:00,549 --> 00:32:56,549
on especially there was one i

819
00:33:04,149 --> 00:33:00,559
got from a uh a hungarian uh

820
00:33:07,110 --> 00:33:04,159
researcher his name is christon andre

821
00:33:08,310 --> 00:33:07,120
he said he said he sent me a badge i had

822
00:33:10,230 --> 00:33:08,320
to translate him

823
00:33:11,430 --> 00:33:10,240
google translate so hopefully i did it

824
00:33:14,310 --> 00:33:11,440
right i'm not sure

825
00:33:14,789 --> 00:33:14,320
because he couldn't translate do that a

826
00:33:19,269 --> 00:33:14,799
lot of

827
00:33:21,990 --> 00:33:19,279
case was in uh

828
00:33:23,590 --> 00:33:22,000
november 1944 their germans were

829
00:33:26,950 --> 00:33:23,600
retreating

830
00:33:29,350 --> 00:33:26,960
and there was this uh village in uh

831
00:33:30,470 --> 00:33:29,360
in hungary and there was some german

832
00:33:32,870 --> 00:33:30,480
soldier station there and there were

833
00:33:35,269 --> 00:33:32,880
some kids playing outside and

834
00:33:37,750 --> 00:33:35,279
and all of a sudden they saw like a

835
00:33:40,549 --> 00:33:37,760
apparently a disc

836
00:33:42,149 --> 00:33:40,559
metallic they it landed on the field

837
00:33:43,990 --> 00:33:42,159
near where the soldiers were standing

838
00:33:45,430 --> 00:33:44,000
or being stationed or doing guard i

839
00:33:46,789 --> 00:33:45,440
don't know what they're doing and the

840
00:33:50,710 --> 00:33:46,799
kids right now up to the

841
00:33:52,389 --> 00:33:50,720
to the ship to the ufo

842
00:33:54,789 --> 00:33:52,399
followed by the soldiers the german

843
00:33:58,230 --> 00:33:54,799
soldiers were armed

844
00:33:59,909 --> 00:33:58,240
a door opened and several figures

845
00:34:01,590 --> 00:33:59,919
or entities walked out they were wearing

846
00:34:05,350 --> 00:34:01,600
metallic suits or something or

847
00:34:08,149 --> 00:34:05,360
human like human height and

848
00:34:08,629 --> 00:34:08,159
the german soldiers panicked and they uh

849
00:34:11,829 --> 00:34:08,639
began

850
00:34:12,710 --> 00:34:11,839
firing at the uh humanoids there was a

851
00:34:15,030 --> 00:34:12,720
big

852
00:34:16,470 --> 00:34:15,040
flash of light and blinded the uh the

853
00:34:18,790 --> 00:34:16,480
germans and they had a retreat

854
00:34:20,470 --> 00:34:18,800
and then they think these uh entities

855
00:34:23,190 --> 00:34:20,480
went back into the option and they

856
00:34:24,470 --> 00:34:23,200
and it took off very interesting case

857
00:34:27,270 --> 00:34:24,480
that's how we greet uh

858
00:34:28,069 --> 00:34:27,280
our um visitors from outer space with

859
00:34:29,750 --> 00:34:28,079
bullets

860
00:34:32,829 --> 00:34:29,760
well i'm talking about 1944 in the

861
00:34:35,589 --> 00:34:32,839
middle of the war so

862
00:34:38,629 --> 00:34:35,599
um

863
00:34:42,710 --> 00:34:38,639
there were a lot of cases in russia

864
00:34:47,190 --> 00:34:44,950
yeah i mean you know there was another

865
00:34:50,869 --> 00:34:47,200
case

866
00:34:53,909 --> 00:34:50,879
go ahead go ahead

867
00:34:56,149 --> 00:34:53,919
oh there's a another case i got from uh

868
00:34:58,390 --> 00:34:56,159
this is from the czech republic

869
00:35:00,069 --> 00:34:58,400
czechoslovakia back then

870
00:35:02,069 --> 00:35:00,079
well it had been taken over by germany

871
00:35:05,589 --> 00:35:02,079
but anyway uh the

872
00:35:07,990 --> 00:35:05,599
the researchers jitka linkova

873
00:35:09,750 --> 00:35:08,000
she i got uh her book she sent me over a

874
00:35:14,310 --> 00:35:09,760
copy of her book a pdf

875
00:35:17,990 --> 00:35:14,320
and there was a case there in like 1943.

876
00:35:20,550 --> 00:35:18,000
there was some uh kids they saw a like a

877
00:35:22,069 --> 00:35:20,560
an object it looked like a bell it

878
00:35:24,870 --> 00:35:22,079
reminds me of

879
00:35:26,230 --> 00:35:24,880
supposedly the german the glock but it

880
00:35:27,589 --> 00:35:26,240
was a bell

881
00:35:30,390 --> 00:35:27,599
and it descended to the ground there

882
00:35:32,150 --> 00:35:30,400
were two human-like figures and

883
00:35:33,750 --> 00:35:32,160
there was one that was a man blonde hair

884
00:35:35,589 --> 00:35:33,760
and the other was another male

885
00:35:37,670 --> 00:35:35,599
but he looked more like a hindu dark

886
00:35:40,150 --> 00:35:37,680
darker

887
00:35:41,670 --> 00:35:40,160
with black hair and the thing just over

888
00:35:44,150 --> 00:35:41,680
there for a while and uh

889
00:35:45,670 --> 00:35:44,160
there were other witnesses and then it

890
00:35:48,870 --> 00:35:45,680
made a sound and it

891
00:35:52,230 --> 00:35:48,880
shot away it's just interesting then

892
00:35:56,390 --> 00:35:52,240
and a lot of the cases that i

893
00:35:59,510 --> 00:35:56,400
got a lot of all those areas denmark

894
00:36:02,230 --> 00:35:59,520
a lot of cases and uh

895
00:36:04,069 --> 00:36:02,240
many of the the entities seen there at

896
00:36:05,829 --> 00:36:04,079
that time they were human-like the very

897
00:36:09,510 --> 00:36:05,839
few reports of the uh

898
00:36:10,310 --> 00:36:09,520
our friends the greys back in the 40s or

899
00:36:13,430 --> 00:36:10,320
50s or

900
00:36:15,750 --> 00:36:13,440
even 60s 70s that's when we started

901
00:36:18,790 --> 00:36:15,760
getting reports of uh

902
00:36:20,069 --> 00:36:18,800
some of the little great great types i

903
00:36:21,270 --> 00:36:20,079
don't know i call them the hollywood

904
00:36:24,390 --> 00:36:21,280
grades but

905
00:36:28,710 --> 00:36:24,400
you never know then in the 80s with

906
00:36:31,349 --> 00:36:28,720
the straver books and that's uh

907
00:36:33,750 --> 00:36:31,359
he and um bud hopkins the late bud

908
00:36:36,310 --> 00:36:33,760
hopkins and

909
00:36:37,589 --> 00:36:36,320
he had a lot of reports of great type

910
00:36:39,030 --> 00:36:37,599
you know creatures

911
00:36:40,790 --> 00:36:39,040
that they're the ones that seem to do a

912
00:36:42,230 --> 00:36:40,800
lot of the abductions

913
00:36:44,069 --> 00:36:42,240
even though the ones that stream were

914
00:36:44,870 --> 00:36:44,079
reported not exactly grace but they were

915
00:36:47,109 --> 00:36:44,880
like

916
00:36:48,550 --> 00:36:47,119
similar to grace i've always been

917
00:36:51,829 --> 00:36:48,560
fascinated by

918
00:36:54,950 --> 00:36:51,839
his encounters

919
00:36:57,990 --> 00:36:54,960
communion right

920
00:37:01,589 --> 00:36:58,000
well you know i i believe there was

921
00:37:04,950 --> 00:37:01,599
a lot going on even before world war ii

922
00:37:05,829 --> 00:37:04,960
involving uh the third rake i think that

923
00:37:09,589 --> 00:37:05,839
i i think

924
00:37:10,069 --> 00:37:09,599
they probably did have an encounter or

925
00:37:14,550 --> 00:37:10,079
two

926
00:37:16,470 --> 00:37:14,560
with some unknown type of beings um

927
00:37:17,750 --> 00:37:16,480
they're you know they had the cernitsa

928
00:37:21,190 --> 00:37:17,760
crash which was

929
00:37:24,470 --> 00:37:21,200
actually in poland but that was part of

930
00:37:28,069 --> 00:37:24,480
german territory later where the

931
00:37:30,150 --> 00:37:28,079
uh they supposedly had found bodies

932
00:37:32,230 --> 00:37:30,160
and uh they had contact with

933
00:37:35,670 --> 00:37:32,240
extraterrestrial beings you know

934
00:37:37,270 --> 00:37:35,680
quite frankly i mean their technology

935
00:37:38,710 --> 00:37:37,280
and even though a lot of people want to

936
00:37:41,990 --> 00:37:38,720
discount it they they

937
00:37:45,109 --> 00:37:42,000
had a lot of technology a lot of

938
00:37:47,910 --> 00:37:45,119
very different technology

939
00:37:49,510 --> 00:37:47,920
than uh what we could have had at the

940
00:37:52,790 --> 00:37:49,520
time and

941
00:37:55,349 --> 00:37:52,800
yeah you do know that i mean the germans

942
00:37:58,069 --> 00:37:55,359
had a lot of very skilled engineers and

943
00:38:02,470 --> 00:37:58,079
scientists and no doubt about that

944
00:38:04,630 --> 00:38:02,480
uh but yeah when you look into it

945
00:38:06,390 --> 00:38:04,640
and go back and look into some of what

946
00:38:08,150 --> 00:38:06,400
they um

947
00:38:09,589 --> 00:38:08,160
you know what they were doing at the

948
00:38:11,670 --> 00:38:09,599
time and of course we

949
00:38:13,510 --> 00:38:11,680
without with operation paperclip we

950
00:38:15,829 --> 00:38:13,520
grabbed as many as we could

951
00:38:16,870 --> 00:38:15,839
at the end of the war i mean i i don't

952
00:38:18,470 --> 00:38:16,880
think we've ever

953
00:38:20,310 --> 00:38:18,480
i don't think we'd admitted to the moon

954
00:38:23,750 --> 00:38:20,320
if we didn't have some of these

955
00:38:25,750 --> 00:38:23,760
german scientists from uh from the third

956
00:38:30,430 --> 00:38:25,760
break working with us

957
00:38:33,109 --> 00:38:30,440
back the moon of two guys in charge were

958
00:38:34,230 --> 00:38:33,119
ex-german nazis and and yeah they were

959
00:38:37,430 --> 00:38:34,240
the ones in charge there

960
00:38:39,030 --> 00:38:37,440
nasa bone brown and

961
00:38:40,470 --> 00:38:39,040
i forgot the other guy's name there they

962
00:38:41,510 --> 00:38:40,480
were freaking nazis and they were

963
00:38:45,750 --> 00:38:41,520
brought in

964
00:38:47,750 --> 00:38:45,760
so we could get to the moon yeah

965
00:38:49,589 --> 00:38:47,760
von braun was uh he was ahead of his

966
00:38:52,710 --> 00:38:49,599
time he he uh

967
00:38:56,790 --> 00:38:52,720
he basically built the saturn v

968
00:38:58,470 --> 00:38:56,800
rocket and uh got us to the moon but

969
00:38:59,910 --> 00:38:58,480
you know i don't think i don't think

970
00:39:01,670 --> 00:38:59,920
beyond that

971
00:39:03,270 --> 00:39:01,680
we could have collected the technology

972
00:39:04,390 --> 00:39:03,280
to be able to do that himself now of

973
00:39:06,790 --> 00:39:04,400
course

974
00:39:08,230 --> 00:39:06,800
you know back in 47 with the roswell

975
00:39:11,430 --> 00:39:08,240
crash and there were others are

976
00:39:13,109 --> 00:39:11,440
before that time and and after you

977
00:39:16,069 --> 00:39:13,119
you really don't know what kind of

978
00:39:18,150 --> 00:39:16,079
technology that we acquired through that

979
00:39:20,150 --> 00:39:18,160
i you know from people i've talked to

980
00:39:21,030 --> 00:39:20,160
and through sources and such over the

981
00:39:24,630 --> 00:39:21,040
years

982
00:39:26,470 --> 00:39:24,640
i i do believe that

983
00:39:28,870 --> 00:39:26,480
even to the day i think some of the

984
00:39:31,670 --> 00:39:28,880
technology that we have

985
00:39:32,069 --> 00:39:31,680
is a result of some type of interaction

986
00:39:35,190 --> 00:39:32,079
with

987
00:39:36,630 --> 00:39:35,200
other beings uh and i think that's

988
00:39:37,190 --> 00:39:36,640
something that's going to continue to

989
00:39:43,589 --> 00:39:37,200
occur

990
00:39:45,589 --> 00:39:43,599
i mean you know well i think in roswell

991
00:39:47,030 --> 00:39:45,599
uh i do believe that something crashed

992
00:39:49,670 --> 00:39:47,040
but i think it was more than one

993
00:39:50,870 --> 00:39:49,680
ship i think there were a couple crashes

994
00:39:54,950 --> 00:39:50,880
there

995
00:39:57,190 --> 00:39:54,960
nearby and and even before roswell it

996
00:40:00,870 --> 00:39:57,200
was like crashing 45

997
00:40:03,430 --> 00:40:00,880
also in new mexico and then in 48

998
00:40:04,390 --> 00:40:03,440
brother crashes there were a lot of

999
00:40:06,390 --> 00:40:04,400
crashes back in

1000
00:40:07,430 --> 00:40:06,400
those years and then there have been

1001
00:40:11,430 --> 00:40:07,440
other crashes uh

1002
00:40:12,950 --> 00:40:11,440
keksburg shag harbor

1003
00:40:14,710 --> 00:40:12,960
i don't know if that was a total

1004
00:40:15,829 --> 00:40:14,720
complete crash but they retrieved the

1005
00:40:17,430 --> 00:40:15,839
object or something

1006
00:40:19,030 --> 00:40:17,440
we didn't retrieve it but i think they

1007
00:40:23,030 --> 00:40:19,040
they did themselves

1008
00:40:27,030 --> 00:40:23,040
yeah that crash there looked like

1009
00:40:30,990 --> 00:40:27,040
like the german glock or the bell

1010
00:40:41,109 --> 00:40:38,230
yeah there's been a lot of reports

1011
00:40:42,150 --> 00:40:41,119
go ahead oh yeah well of course you know

1012
00:40:45,270 --> 00:40:42,160
stan

1013
00:40:47,190 --> 00:40:45,280
has been investigating and uh has

1014
00:40:49,430 --> 00:40:47,200
continued to investigate

1015
00:40:51,349 --> 00:40:49,440
the uh the kecksburg incident for almost

1016
00:40:54,710 --> 00:40:51,359
50 years now

1017
00:40:57,349 --> 00:40:54,720
um now he i

1018
00:40:57,910 --> 00:40:57,359
i think you know of course some of the

1019
00:40:59,670 --> 00:40:57,920
uh

1020
00:41:01,349 --> 00:40:59,680
some of the technology that possibly

1021
00:41:03,829 --> 00:41:01,359
came from that thing

1022
00:41:07,270 --> 00:41:03,839
i i think it's kind of been discounted

1023
00:41:11,670 --> 00:41:07,280
by many but i believe as some people

1024
00:41:14,150 --> 00:41:11,680
some people don't know at that time nasa

1025
00:41:15,750 --> 00:41:14,160
was in charge of collecting any type of

1026
00:41:17,990 --> 00:41:15,760
evidence like that

1027
00:41:19,750 --> 00:41:18,000
early 60s it you know the military

1028
00:41:23,030 --> 00:41:19,760
wasn't doing it

1029
00:41:25,109 --> 00:41:23,040
nasa the new nasa uh

1030
00:41:26,630 --> 00:41:25,119
was was in charge of doing that of

1031
00:41:28,630 --> 00:41:26,640
actually collecting and

1032
00:41:29,670 --> 00:41:28,640
stan said that these were these were

1033
00:41:33,589 --> 00:41:29,680
nasa

1034
00:41:35,589 --> 00:41:33,599
collected that not where they went

1035
00:41:37,030 --> 00:41:35,599
did it go to wright patterson i don't

1036
00:41:38,069 --> 00:41:37,040
know you know it could have gone a lot

1037
00:41:40,230 --> 00:41:38,079
of places

1038
00:41:44,950 --> 00:41:40,240
you know even even just like these alien

1039
00:41:51,270 --> 00:41:47,990
go ahead i think nasa

1040
00:41:54,630 --> 00:41:51,280
was behind a lot of the uh

1041
00:41:57,190 --> 00:41:54,640
supposedly uh crash recoveries i mean

1042
00:41:58,470 --> 00:41:57,200
that's i'm talking about the six uh 60s

1043
00:42:02,150 --> 00:41:58,480
when

1044
00:42:03,910 --> 00:42:02,160
there was a nasa bef before that i don't

1045
00:42:07,750 --> 00:42:03,920
know

1046
00:42:11,430 --> 00:42:07,760
maybe the navy cia

1047
00:42:14,870 --> 00:42:13,430
yeah i you know i think i think the

1048
00:42:16,150 --> 00:42:14,880
military was kind of

1049
00:42:18,150 --> 00:42:16,160
you know they were looking at me of

1050
00:42:18,710 --> 00:42:18,160
course project blue book and all that

1051
00:42:22,069 --> 00:42:18,720
you know

1052
00:42:23,670 --> 00:42:22,079
enigma

1053
00:42:25,190 --> 00:42:23,680
we really don't know what they were

1054
00:42:28,630 --> 00:42:25,200
really doing back then

1055
00:42:29,589 --> 00:42:28,640
was a disinformation program who knows i

1056
00:42:32,630 --> 00:42:29,599
mean

1057
00:42:34,390 --> 00:42:32,640
i don't know uh they were trying to keep

1058
00:42:36,630 --> 00:42:34,400
things quiet for the most part

1059
00:42:37,589 --> 00:42:36,640
but i i do believe there were some

1060
00:42:40,069 --> 00:42:37,599
incidents where

1061
00:42:41,190 --> 00:42:40,079
they may have collected real evidence

1062
00:42:43,829 --> 00:42:41,200
and uh

1063
00:42:46,230 --> 00:42:43,839
you know but like i said before er you

1064
00:42:48,950 --> 00:42:46,240
know as time went by and nasa was

1065
00:42:51,829 --> 00:42:48,960
was created they they kind of did most

1066
00:42:55,910 --> 00:42:51,839
of the retrieval from what i understand

1067
00:42:57,750 --> 00:42:55,920
uh then of course it it kind of

1068
00:42:59,270 --> 00:42:57,760
you know kind of evolved into something

1069
00:43:00,790 --> 00:42:59,280
else

1070
00:43:03,589 --> 00:43:00,800
you know if something like that happened

1071
00:43:04,390 --> 00:43:03,599
nowadays most likely would be the air

1072
00:43:08,230 --> 00:43:04,400
force

1073
00:43:13,510 --> 00:43:08,240
that

1074
00:43:18,550 --> 00:43:13,520
extraterrestrial non-human type

1075
00:43:22,630 --> 00:43:20,309
well you know a lot of the reports of

1076
00:43:26,069 --> 00:43:22,640
crashes in in south america

1077
00:43:27,910 --> 00:43:26,079
like the one in seventy eighteen uh

1078
00:43:29,510 --> 00:43:27,920
olivia on the frontier bolivia and

1079
00:43:31,910 --> 00:43:29,520
argentina

1080
00:43:32,950 --> 00:43:31,920
the the people there reported that later

1081
00:43:35,190 --> 00:43:32,960
after the crash the

1082
00:43:38,470 --> 00:43:35,200
they saw like americans there and then

1083
00:43:45,270 --> 00:43:42,390
nasa logos they've been seen in other

1084
00:43:46,550 --> 00:43:45,280
mostly in south america poor retail

1085
00:43:51,190 --> 00:43:46,560
people were in

1086
00:43:53,750 --> 00:43:51,200
a scene of uh supposed ufo crashes

1087
00:43:55,109 --> 00:43:53,760
nasa personnel at the scene and they

1088
00:43:57,030 --> 00:43:55,119
were working on

1089
00:43:59,030 --> 00:43:57,040
openly because back you know they were

1090
00:44:03,030 --> 00:43:59,040
in south america

1091
00:44:05,030 --> 00:44:03,040
but some people recognize it as as

1092
00:44:09,349 --> 00:44:05,040
you know from the usa yeah makings and

1093
00:44:11,510 --> 00:44:09,359
they were wearing nasa uniforms

1094
00:44:13,030 --> 00:44:11,520
and and that's correct uh if you look

1095
00:44:14,150 --> 00:44:13,040
back at some of the older cases

1096
00:44:18,150 --> 00:44:14,160
especially

1097
00:44:20,950 --> 00:44:18,160
coming out of brazil and argentina uh

1098
00:44:22,790 --> 00:44:20,960
a lot of times there were u.s personnel

1099
00:44:25,430 --> 00:44:22,800
involved with these recoveries

1100
00:44:27,349 --> 00:44:25,440
and like you stated some of them were

1101
00:44:30,870 --> 00:44:27,359
recognized as national

1102
00:44:33,829 --> 00:44:30,880
nasa engineers and scientists uh

1103
00:44:34,790 --> 00:44:33,839
you know we've had our fingers in with

1104
00:44:36,390 --> 00:44:34,800
into all that

1105
00:44:38,870 --> 00:44:36,400
that's been going on down in south

1106
00:44:40,950 --> 00:44:38,880
america for a lot of years and of course

1107
00:44:42,790 --> 00:44:40,960
you know argentina and brazil have been

1108
00:44:46,309 --> 00:44:42,800
very open about

1109
00:44:48,309 --> 00:44:46,319
their uh their encounters down there

1110
00:44:50,550 --> 00:44:48,319
and of course i'm quite sure the united

1111
00:44:53,670 --> 00:44:50,560
states has been very

1112
00:44:55,349 --> 00:44:53,680
very uh accommodating to their

1113
00:44:57,030 --> 00:44:55,359
whatever government they have at the

1114
00:45:01,030 --> 00:44:57,040
time and and uh

1115
00:45:04,309 --> 00:45:01,040
are very uh prudent about getting what

1116
00:45:08,470 --> 00:45:04,319
information or what material they can

1117
00:45:12,069 --> 00:45:09,829
yeah most of the south american

1118
00:45:14,950 --> 00:45:12,079
countries are very open now but

1119
00:45:16,390 --> 00:45:14,960
yeah they admit that they had especially

1120
00:45:22,710 --> 00:45:16,400
like chile

1121
00:45:31,430 --> 00:45:26,230
and a lot of them in europe also spain

1122
00:45:34,870 --> 00:45:33,910
but you kind of have a unique here we're

1123
00:45:38,870 --> 00:45:34,880
getting more

1124
00:45:43,430 --> 00:45:41,430
yeah right now somebody asked me up what

1125
00:45:45,750 --> 00:45:43,440
do you think about this pentagon

1126
00:45:47,349 --> 00:45:45,760
disclosure and stuff well i go maybe

1127
00:45:49,750 --> 00:45:47,359
there is something to it maybe we're

1128
00:45:52,069 --> 00:45:49,760
getting more

1129
00:45:54,390 --> 00:45:52,079
we're getting prepared or there's

1130
00:45:55,910 --> 00:45:54,400
there's more

1131
00:45:57,510 --> 00:45:55,920
they want to inform the people better

1132
00:45:59,109 --> 00:45:57,520
now i mean they want to make it more

1133
00:46:02,230 --> 00:45:59,119
legitimate

1134
00:46:03,510 --> 00:46:02,240
i don't know well you and i haven't

1135
00:46:05,910 --> 00:46:03,520
taught before because of your

1136
00:46:09,270 --> 00:46:05,920
perspective and you being cuban

1137
00:46:12,309 --> 00:46:09,280
uh of a lot of uh strange

1138
00:46:15,030 --> 00:46:12,319
humanoid sightings and ufo encounters

1139
00:46:16,230 --> 00:46:15,040
in cuba as well and you you do have some

1140
00:46:18,309 --> 00:46:16,240
connections

1141
00:46:19,910 --> 00:46:18,319
and you have been able to get some of

1142
00:46:23,510 --> 00:46:19,920
these stories can you kind of tell us a

1143
00:46:27,589 --> 00:46:25,589
there there's one there's always

1144
00:46:30,150 --> 00:46:27,599
intrigued me that this is uh

1145
00:46:32,390 --> 00:46:30,160
you know in cuba there's uh a lot of

1146
00:46:35,270 --> 00:46:32,400
tobacco fields and

1147
00:46:36,230 --> 00:46:35,280
this there was a ranch um this is in the

1148
00:46:38,870 --> 00:46:36,240
60s i like

1149
00:46:40,390 --> 00:46:38,880
i don't have my my information with me

1150
00:46:43,190 --> 00:46:40,400
my laptop but

1151
00:46:44,950 --> 00:46:43,200
uh there was uh uh one of the ranch

1152
00:46:47,670 --> 00:46:44,960
hands a worker in the fields

1153
00:46:48,230 --> 00:46:47,680
he went to check on the uh the tobacco

1154
00:46:52,150 --> 00:46:48,240
they

1155
00:47:01,030 --> 00:46:52,160
a

1156
00:47:03,829 --> 00:47:01,040
to check on it this is in the

1157
00:47:04,790 --> 00:47:03,839
las vegas province and he walked in

1158
00:47:06,870 --> 00:47:04,800
there and

1159
00:47:08,550 --> 00:47:06,880
uh he was checking around all of a

1160
00:47:09,349 --> 00:47:08,560
sudden he heard a noise he looked behind

1161
00:47:11,430 --> 00:47:09,359
him

1162
00:47:12,790 --> 00:47:11,440
and there was a creature or some kind of

1163
00:47:16,069 --> 00:47:12,800
humanoid

1164
00:47:18,790 --> 00:47:16,079
standing in bipedal two feet

1165
00:47:19,910 --> 00:47:18,800
and he looked like uh something he's

1166
00:47:23,990 --> 00:47:19,920
never seen before

1167
00:47:27,109 --> 00:47:24,000
uh it was all thin big

1168
00:47:27,829 --> 00:47:27,119
dark like dark brown in color i don't

1169
00:47:29,430 --> 00:47:27,839
remember if

1170
00:47:31,190 --> 00:47:29,440
you said it was wrinkled kind of belt

1171
00:47:33,349 --> 00:47:31,200
but all of a sudden

1172
00:47:36,950 --> 00:47:33,359
he looked at him he tried to approach

1173
00:47:40,309 --> 00:47:36,960
the the end of the end the entity

1174
00:47:43,510 --> 00:47:40,319
admitted like a a loud very loud

1175
00:47:46,069 --> 00:47:43,520
yell scream and it was so loud that it

1176
00:47:47,670 --> 00:47:46,079
cracked his eardrums and he passed out

1177
00:47:49,589 --> 00:47:47,680
when they found him he was bleeding from

1178
00:47:52,549 --> 00:47:49,599
his eardrum

1179
00:47:53,589 --> 00:47:52,559
and he was passed out i guess that's

1180
00:47:56,150 --> 00:47:53,599
that was the kind of

1181
00:47:56,870 --> 00:47:56,160
defense mechanism that the entity used

1182
00:47:59,190 --> 00:47:56,880
so we

1183
00:48:02,549 --> 00:47:59,200
he wouldn't approached it there's other

1184
00:48:09,910 --> 00:48:06,150
this is a winged humanoid in 1952

1185
00:48:10,870 --> 00:48:09,920
in cuba uh it looked like it was wearing

1186
00:48:14,230 --> 00:48:10,880
something

1187
00:48:15,589 --> 00:48:14,240
a hover over a field and had it was kind

1188
00:48:18,829 --> 00:48:15,599
of gold-colored but it was

1189
00:48:19,990 --> 00:48:18,839
man-shaped and he had wings and it says

1190
00:48:24,230 --> 00:48:20,000
something

1191
00:48:26,549 --> 00:48:24,240
they couldn't understand what he was

1192
00:48:29,589 --> 00:48:26,559
saying then it flew away

1193
00:48:31,589 --> 00:48:29,599
this is in 1952 and in cuba i know

1194
00:48:32,950 --> 00:48:31,599
there's one

1195
00:48:35,109 --> 00:48:32,960
one of the early ones that i know from

1196
00:48:38,390 --> 00:48:35,119
cuba is 1930

1197
00:48:41,829 --> 00:48:41,190
naval commander was driving this sounds

1198
00:48:44,309 --> 00:48:41,839
more like a

1199
00:48:45,990 --> 00:48:44,319
like urban legend but they i talked to

1200
00:48:47,190 --> 00:48:46,000
researchers said that actually did it

1201
00:48:49,910 --> 00:48:47,200
really happen

1202
00:48:51,670 --> 00:48:49,920
he was a naval commander he was driving

1203
00:48:54,470 --> 00:48:51,680
he was a doctor also he was driving

1204
00:48:55,589 --> 00:48:54,480
to habana the main highway back there at

1205
00:48:57,510 --> 00:48:55,599
the time

1206
00:48:58,870 --> 00:48:57,520
and he saw a little a little figure on

1207
00:49:01,109 --> 00:48:58,880
the side of the road

1208
00:49:01,990 --> 00:49:01,119
and he thought he was a child or missed

1209
00:49:04,390 --> 00:49:02,000
a lost child

1210
00:49:06,630 --> 00:49:04,400
or something and he was concerned so he

1211
00:49:08,390 --> 00:49:06,640
stopped his vehicle he ran over to it

1212
00:49:09,589 --> 00:49:08,400
it looked like he was kind of dark so

1213
00:49:12,150 --> 00:49:09,599
you couldn't see exactly what he looked

1214
00:49:16,470 --> 00:49:12,160
like but it was humanoid

1215
00:49:19,510 --> 00:49:16,480
very short you know shaped like a human

1216
00:49:21,910 --> 00:49:19,520
proportionally and he said well let me

1217
00:49:24,150 --> 00:49:21,920
pick this kid up when he grabbed it

1218
00:49:25,670 --> 00:49:24,160
it felt like lead he couldn't he

1219
00:49:28,710 --> 00:49:25,680
couldn't budget it was like

1220
00:49:30,150 --> 00:49:28,720
very heavy and he looked at it and his

1221
00:49:31,349 --> 00:49:30,160
face was totally different he had a

1222
00:49:34,549 --> 00:49:31,359
bigger a big bob

1223
00:49:37,829 --> 00:49:34,559
you know a wide mouth and big eyes

1224
00:49:40,710 --> 00:49:37,839
and he just let go and took off

1225
00:49:43,190 --> 00:49:40,720
and he drove away he said he was so

1226
00:49:45,750 --> 00:49:43,200
heavy they couldn't budget

1227
00:49:50,630 --> 00:49:45,760
it was like if it was made out of lead

1228
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:55,030
and then yeah it was a big way

1229
00:49:58,950 --> 00:49:57,510
in 93 94 95 there was a there were a lot

1230
00:50:02,710 --> 00:49:58,960
of cases

1231
00:50:04,150 --> 00:50:02,720
lelia has been a couple but i've never

1232
00:50:07,750 --> 00:50:04,160
too much lately

1233
00:50:12,309 --> 00:50:07,760
yeah uh we had a question in the uh

1234
00:50:17,030 --> 00:50:12,319
in the chat about what percentage of uh

1235
00:50:20,870 --> 00:50:17,040
humanoids have non-evil intentions i

1236
00:50:23,910 --> 00:50:20,880
you know i personally i don't think uh

1237
00:50:25,670 --> 00:50:23,920
that there they have some type of evil

1238
00:50:27,030 --> 00:50:25,680
intention of course you know

1239
00:50:29,190 --> 00:50:27,040
you're going to get you're going to get

1240
00:50:32,230 --> 00:50:29,200
those sightings where

1241
00:50:35,190 --> 00:50:32,240
uh either an animal is

1242
00:50:37,270 --> 00:50:35,200
mutilated somehow or you know just like

1243
00:50:39,349 --> 00:50:37,280
the old chupacabra cases

1244
00:50:41,670 --> 00:50:39,359
we used to get out of puerto rico i mean

1245
00:50:44,069 --> 00:50:41,680
you know they they did seem to be there

1246
00:50:46,710 --> 00:50:44,079
with some type of intention

1247
00:50:47,270 --> 00:50:46,720
uh and believe me i've gotten a lot of

1248
00:50:50,630 --> 00:50:47,280
reports

1249
00:50:52,549 --> 00:50:50,640
of these type of beings uh you know

1250
00:50:53,990 --> 00:50:52,559
that were either bipedal or or

1251
00:50:56,390 --> 00:50:54,000
quarterbacks that

1252
00:50:57,750 --> 00:50:56,400
people were calling chupacabras but i

1253
00:50:59,510 --> 00:50:57,760
don't think for the most part that

1254
00:51:03,270 --> 00:50:59,520
they're evil

1255
00:51:05,990 --> 00:51:03,280
what do you think uh

1256
00:51:09,190 --> 00:51:06,000
i don't know direct cases which we can't

1257
00:51:12,309 --> 00:51:09,200
had uh direct the hostile

1258
00:51:15,430 --> 00:51:12,319
intentions from humanoids to

1259
00:51:17,829 --> 00:51:15,440
humans i very few

1260
00:51:19,670 --> 00:51:17,839
maybe a couple i think most of the

1261
00:51:21,430 --> 00:51:19,680
injuries that we

1262
00:51:23,190 --> 00:51:21,440
some of the witnesses have received have

1263
00:51:26,390 --> 00:51:23,200
been unintentional

1264
00:51:28,870 --> 00:51:26,400
accidental they ran towards the

1265
00:51:29,910 --> 00:51:28,880
humanoids and they used like this guy in

1266
00:51:31,750 --> 00:51:29,920
cuba

1267
00:51:33,829 --> 00:51:31,760
they used some kind of a defense

1268
00:51:36,950 --> 00:51:33,839
mechanism they don't mean to hurt us but

1269
00:51:38,470 --> 00:51:36,960
when they do that the human you know

1270
00:51:39,190 --> 00:51:38,480
there's some kind of injuries involved

1271
00:51:43,670 --> 00:51:39,200
there's a

1272
00:51:46,150 --> 00:51:43,680
case in peru uh a landing of a craft

1273
00:51:47,589 --> 00:51:46,160
back in 68 and tingle a place called

1274
00:51:50,470 --> 00:51:47,599
tingo maria

1275
00:51:51,349 --> 00:51:50,480
but their two kids ran over to a landed

1276
00:51:54,390 --> 00:51:51,359
craft or

1277
00:51:55,670 --> 00:51:54,400
there were some entities around it it

1278
00:51:58,950 --> 00:51:55,680
was a bright flash so

1279
00:52:00,950 --> 00:51:58,960
and later some people went over to the

1280
00:52:04,549 --> 00:52:00,960
site after the ufo left and

1281
00:52:06,230 --> 00:52:04,559
the two kids were dead i mean

1282
00:52:08,390 --> 00:52:06,240
they would they have died of appear to

1283
00:52:09,510 --> 00:52:08,400
be burns maybe it was an accidental i

1284
00:52:10,870 --> 00:52:09,520
don't think they would it was done

1285
00:52:13,030 --> 00:52:10,880
intentionally but

1286
00:52:14,790 --> 00:52:13,040
but you know you heard reports of human

1287
00:52:16,150 --> 00:52:14,800
mutilations also so i don't know what to

1288
00:52:19,109 --> 00:52:16,160
say about those

1289
00:52:26,230 --> 00:52:19,119
i know a couple cases supposedly who

1290
00:52:30,230 --> 00:52:28,549
hey this is a bill the producer here

1291
00:52:33,510 --> 00:52:30,240
alberta we had a question

1292
00:52:34,390 --> 00:52:33,520
here claudio's asking have you heard

1293
00:52:38,790 --> 00:52:34,400
anything about the

1294
00:52:45,190 --> 00:52:42,069
yeah barghingha back in 1996

1295
00:52:47,030 --> 00:52:45,200
a very important incident

1296
00:52:50,309 --> 00:52:47,040
and there's a lot of evidence that the

1297
00:52:52,150 --> 00:52:50,319
brazilian military recovered something

1298
00:52:53,750 --> 00:52:52,160
as and as a result a couple of the

1299
00:52:56,549 --> 00:52:53,760
soldiers that were the scene of the

1300
00:52:58,150 --> 00:52:56,559
recovery of the site died of some kind

1301
00:53:01,990 --> 00:52:58,160
of a unknown illness

1302
00:53:05,349 --> 00:53:02,000
but yeah this is a 1996 crash in uh

1303
00:53:09,750 --> 00:53:05,359
bad badging in uh

1304
00:53:11,750 --> 00:53:09,760
brazil back in january 1996.

1305
00:53:14,150 --> 00:53:11,760
and it's funny because back in 95 there

1306
00:53:16,230 --> 00:53:14,160
was another crash

1307
00:53:18,069 --> 00:53:16,240
in brazil no one speaks about that one

1308
00:53:20,870 --> 00:53:18,079
but it was another crash

1309
00:53:22,470 --> 00:53:20,880
similar in the same area but this is the

1310
00:53:29,270 --> 00:53:22,480
one that's very known as the

1311
00:53:31,109 --> 00:53:29,280
the one that claudia was talking about

1312
00:53:33,109 --> 00:53:31,119
yeah that brazil that brazilians is

1313
00:53:34,230 --> 00:53:33,119
pretty well known the the one you were

1314
00:53:36,950 --> 00:53:34,240
mentioning

1315
00:53:38,549 --> 00:53:36,960
uh you know those those beings were kind

1316
00:53:40,309 --> 00:53:38,559
of screens they were

1317
00:53:42,630 --> 00:53:40,319
i think the description for the most

1318
00:53:44,549 --> 00:53:42,640
part they were kind of a greenish

1319
00:53:45,750 --> 00:53:44,559
type being about three to four foot

1320
00:53:48,390 --> 00:53:45,760
maybe in height

1321
00:53:49,430 --> 00:53:48,400
with spine with spikes coming down the

1322
00:53:52,790 --> 00:53:49,440
back of them

1323
00:53:54,950 --> 00:53:52,800
with large bulbous red eyes strange

1324
00:53:58,470 --> 00:53:54,960
uh i think it was a bunch of girls that

1325
00:54:01,349 --> 00:53:58,480
kind of encountered them funny

1326
00:54:02,390 --> 00:54:01,359
yeah and they had super funny shape they

1327
00:54:05,510 --> 00:54:02,400
were like

1328
00:54:07,430 --> 00:54:05,520
not your typical gray pear-shaped head

1329
00:54:10,390 --> 00:54:07,440
were different

1330
00:54:12,390 --> 00:54:10,400
they're from another place yeah somehow

1331
00:54:16,230 --> 00:54:12,400
they crashed

1332
00:54:19,270 --> 00:54:16,240
yeah who knows

1333
00:54:21,990 --> 00:54:19,280
i don't know that maybe uh that's

1334
00:54:24,069 --> 00:54:22,000
possible i guess

1335
00:54:25,670 --> 00:54:24,079
you know down there down there i guess a

1336
00:54:28,549 --> 00:54:25,680
lot of times just kind of

1337
00:54:31,109 --> 00:54:28,559
shoot and ask questions later uh but

1338
00:54:32,790 --> 00:54:31,119
yeah that case was pretty interesting

1339
00:54:34,950 --> 00:54:32,800
uh because it was it was a bunch of

1340
00:54:36,789 --> 00:54:34,960
girls i believe teenage girls that kind

1341
00:54:40,390 --> 00:54:36,799
of came across them

1342
00:54:45,510 --> 00:54:44,630
yeah the girls saw the creature first

1343
00:54:48,549 --> 00:54:45,520
and then the

1344
00:54:50,069 --> 00:54:48,559
military was called in and they

1345
00:54:52,069 --> 00:54:50,079
i believe they capture a couple of the

1346
00:54:55,589 --> 00:54:52,079
creatures or something

1347
00:54:57,349 --> 00:54:55,599
alive they catch them alive well if they

1348
00:54:58,200 --> 00:54:57,359
called them then we got them

1349
00:55:02,069 --> 00:54:58,210
believe me

1350
00:55:03,829 --> 00:55:02,079
[Laughter]

1351
00:55:05,670 --> 00:55:03,839
you know there's a couple there's

1352
00:55:08,789 --> 00:55:05,680
several books on the incident

1353
00:55:14,069 --> 00:55:08,799
mostly in portuguese though yeah

1354
00:55:17,510 --> 00:55:15,670
well you know i've been fortunate enough

1355
00:55:19,589 --> 00:55:17,520
to have several people

1356
00:55:21,750 --> 00:55:19,599
uh have come forward from puerto rico

1357
00:55:26,950 --> 00:55:21,760
with these um

1358
00:55:28,470 --> 00:55:26,960
with these uh gray encounters and uh

1359
00:55:29,990 --> 00:55:28,480
i mean to the point where some some of

1360
00:55:33,109 --> 00:55:30,000
these witnesses and

1361
00:55:33,910 --> 00:55:33,119
experiencers and i wrote about it in my

1362
00:55:37,990 --> 00:55:33,920
book i

1363
00:55:41,270 --> 00:55:38,000
have actually had um were healed by them

1364
00:55:42,069 --> 00:55:41,280
and such uh you know in the rain forest

1365
00:55:44,630 --> 00:55:42,079
areas

1366
00:55:46,390 --> 00:55:44,640
of puerto rico there have been a lot of

1367
00:55:49,510 --> 00:55:46,400
different types of landings

1368
00:55:51,910 --> 00:55:49,520
and settings of all types of uh

1369
00:55:53,829 --> 00:55:51,920
humanoid beings very described a lot of

1370
00:55:55,910 --> 00:55:53,839
times like graves

1371
00:55:57,030 --> 00:55:55,920
but they seem to be very benevolent for

1372
00:55:58,789 --> 00:55:57,040
the most part

1373
00:56:04,230 --> 00:55:58,799
i don't know if any i don't know of any

1374
00:56:10,950 --> 00:56:07,589
uh in puerto rico like

1375
00:56:14,230 --> 00:56:10,960
researcher jorge martin and especially

1376
00:56:19,990 --> 00:56:16,069
mountain is like a rain forest the only

1377
00:56:23,670 --> 00:56:22,470
that area is just unbelievable kind of

1378
00:56:25,510 --> 00:56:23,680
stuff that happens there they

1379
00:56:27,829 --> 00:56:25,520
he thinks that there's some kind of

1380
00:56:31,030 --> 00:56:27,839
underground installation there

1381
00:56:32,630 --> 00:56:31,040
run by u.s government and aliens at the

1382
00:56:33,270 --> 00:56:32,640
same time like in conjunction that's

1383
00:56:36,150 --> 00:56:33,280
what he

1384
00:56:36,950 --> 00:56:36,160
theory he talked to me about that well

1385
00:56:38,309 --> 00:56:36,960
there's a lot of

1386
00:56:39,670 --> 00:56:38,319
they they've seen different type of

1387
00:56:43,589 --> 00:56:39,680
aliens there there's been a lot of

1388
00:56:49,910 --> 00:56:46,630
yeah i know i know and i had a

1389
00:56:52,150 --> 00:56:49,920
a woman and her daughter who um who had

1390
00:56:54,549 --> 00:56:52,160
actually gotten some photographs

1391
00:56:56,069 --> 00:56:54,559
of some type of be some type of craft in

1392
00:56:56,870 --> 00:56:56,079
one of these rainforests they lived

1393
00:56:58,470 --> 00:56:56,880
nearby

1394
00:57:00,230 --> 00:56:58,480
and i think it was the same area where

1395
00:57:02,950 --> 00:57:00,240
you were just talking about

1396
00:57:05,349 --> 00:57:02,960
but uh you know they aren't the only

1397
00:57:07,589 --> 00:57:05,359
ones i've talked to several people

1398
00:57:08,470 --> 00:57:07,599
who have had these encounters in puerto

1399
00:57:11,030 --> 00:57:08,480
rico and

1400
00:57:12,069 --> 00:57:11,040
you know a lot of them do believe that

1401
00:57:16,069 --> 00:57:12,079
the us government

1402
00:57:19,109 --> 00:57:16,079
has some type of installation there

1403
00:57:22,069 --> 00:57:19,119
uh who knows i mean you know you you're

1404
00:57:24,150 --> 00:57:22,079
the researcher you you've referenced he

1405
00:57:27,670 --> 00:57:24,160
may very well know more than what most

1406
00:57:29,829 --> 00:57:27,680
of us know

1407
00:57:31,030 --> 00:57:29,839
yeah according to him one case that he's

1408
00:57:34,069 --> 00:57:31,040
investigated the

1409
00:57:37,670 --> 00:57:34,079
there's a couple bases different types

1410
00:57:38,390 --> 00:57:37,680
one run by the us government aliens and

1411
00:57:40,710 --> 00:57:38,400
the other one

1412
00:57:44,549 --> 00:57:40,720
by different type of aliens and there's

1413
00:57:49,030 --> 00:57:46,789
he knows more details about that but

1414
00:57:53,030 --> 00:57:49,040
yeah interesting stuff

1415
00:57:59,589 --> 00:57:57,190
so um he's yeah

1416
00:58:01,670 --> 00:57:59,599
yeah so i i i know you mentioned you

1417
00:58:04,470 --> 00:58:01,680
want to get the database going again

1418
00:58:06,789 --> 00:58:04,480
and uh i always look forward to getting

1419
00:58:08,069 --> 00:58:06,799
information from you i know my readers

1420
00:58:11,829 --> 00:58:08,079
love to read

1421
00:58:13,910 --> 00:58:11,839
your reports and uh you know if

1422
00:58:16,390 --> 00:58:13,920
if you're inclined to do something

1423
00:58:19,750 --> 00:58:17,430
i'm going to send you some stuff

1424
00:58:23,910 --> 00:58:19,760
tomorrow okay some cases over

1425
00:58:28,069 --> 00:58:26,230
but i'll send you some more stuff yeah

1426
00:58:30,549 --> 00:58:28,079
okay oh that sounds great yeah i

1427
00:58:31,829 --> 00:58:30,559
appreciate that i mean you know

1428
00:58:33,430 --> 00:58:31,839
you know you're not knowing each other a

1429
00:58:34,150 --> 00:58:33,440
long time we've been involved a lot of

1430
00:58:37,430 --> 00:58:34,160
things so

1431
00:58:39,190 --> 00:58:37,440
uh yeah whatever you can provide i i i

1432
00:58:42,470 --> 00:58:39,200
most appreciate it i know my readers

1433
00:58:47,270 --> 00:58:45,990
got you so right now i got um what is it

1434
00:58:50,950 --> 00:58:47,280
10 o'clock

1435
00:58:52,150 --> 00:58:50,960
i have to go say goodbye to mom and uh

1436
00:58:54,549 --> 00:58:52,160
we're going to see if we can do this

1437
00:58:58,710 --> 00:58:54,559
again and i will okay

1438
00:58:59,030 --> 00:58:58,720
next weekend okay well i appreciate that

1439
00:59:02,390 --> 00:58:59,040
so

1440
00:59:04,710 --> 00:59:02,400
say hi and uh you take care

1441
00:59:07,430 --> 00:59:04,720
tell your family hi for me and we will

1442
00:59:10,309 --> 00:59:07,440
talk to you soon

1443
00:59:13,109 --> 00:59:10,319
okay great now take care you take care

1444
00:59:16,870 --> 00:59:14,789
now if you have an unexplained encounter

1445
00:59:18,470 --> 00:59:16,880
or something feel free to contact me

1446
00:59:21,190 --> 00:59:18,480
through the families and monsters blog

1447
00:59:23,270 --> 00:59:21,200
site i once again thank alberto rosales

1448
00:59:26,390 --> 00:59:23,280
for joining me this evening

1449
00:59:29,109 --> 00:59:26,400
and i want to thank each and all of you

1450
00:59:31,109 --> 00:59:29,119
for watching and chatting this chat room

1451
00:59:33,910 --> 00:59:31,119
has really expanded over

1452
00:59:34,309 --> 00:59:33,920
uh the past month or so and i you know

1453
00:59:38,630 --> 00:59:34,319
it's

1454
00:59:40,390 --> 00:59:38,640
on what you

1455
00:59:41,670 --> 00:59:40,400
you're talking about and asking

1456
00:59:44,470 --> 00:59:41,680
questions

1457
00:59:46,390 --> 00:59:44,480
uh you know you're the super chat

1458
00:59:46,870 --> 00:59:46,400
donations you know for those who made

1459
00:59:49,670 --> 00:59:46,880
them

1460
00:59:51,829 --> 00:59:49,680
it's very much appreciated and you know

1461
00:59:52,549 --> 00:59:51,839
your support is what makes this possible

1462
00:59:56,549 --> 00:59:52,559
so

1463
00:59:59,670 --> 00:59:56,559
again please like subscribe and share

1464
01:00:11,320 --> 00:59:59,680
so until next week stay healthy

1465
01:00:23,970 --> 01:00:12,829
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1466
01:00:49,030 --> 01:00:26,829
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